oli316
29.12.2010, 01:48
-für allerwelt in englisch mal anleitung -wie was wo- um die bremssättel von spoon an der integra-
so here is a description for the spooncalipers on the integra typeR dc2 98spec...
in the most biggest onlineshop in europe for spoonparts " spoonsportseurope.net " were some descriptions, which are simple wrong... they say/said:
"The Twin Block Calipers will only fit a 96' Spec Integra, for 98' Spec Fitment please see Monocoque Calipers"
"Plug and Play"
"only need 16" rotor"
a.s.o....
1. the twinbloc (ni55in logo is on top) [45020-DCR-G00]
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/8578/09twin.jpg (http://img829.imageshack.us/i/09twin.jpg/)
fits on a 98er spec without any mods on it; oem DC2 brakepads and brakerotors (282mm)
2. the monobloc (ni55in logo is low)
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5208/09mono.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/i/09mono.jpg/)
[45020-MBF-G01] MBF is for MonoBloc Forward, cause the caliper sits on front... the S2000 [AP1] caliper have the ordernumber [45020-MBR-G00], so here its MonoBloc Rear, cause the caliper sits on rear...here it seems, that spoon only change the bleeder with the connectiontube (to bleed the brakepistons // must be on top of course)...the caliper is symmetrical so there´s no complexity for the fabrication...the order of the pistons are the same: little piston then big piston
so if you be the lucky dog, who have this package
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/594/dsc01094q.jpg (http://img819.imageshack.us/i/dsc01094q.jpg/)
don´t smile to early :-/ cause some problems exists ... Plug and Play is otherwise :roll:
1. the DC2 pads don´t fit in the caliper:
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3483/cimg96696s02.jpg (http://img225.imageshack.us/i/cimg96696s02.jpg/)
so you need the AP1 pads:
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4996/dsc00125q.jpg (http://img20.imageshack.us/i/dsc00125q.jpg/)
here you have to remove the little bracket for the "waste-notice" and the little nipple
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3820/dsc00126ef.jpg (http://img255.imageshack.us/i/dsc00126ef.jpg/)
thats it? now install and drive? wait please - dude :P ...you "could", BUT here you see, that the brakerotor is to small :( so the pads are braking the air yeah...following picture is DC2 rotor and AP1 pads
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5987/dsc00131p.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/i/dsc00131p.jpg/)
please check your wallet and order some AP1 brakerotors (300mm) ;) now it seems to be better
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6483/dsc00139ye.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/i/dsc00139ye.jpg/)
now install and ride? no no, wait... please some patience :P
the brakerotors between DC2 and AP1 are different... the deepness on DC2 rotor is 45mm and AP1 is 40mm...
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1694/dsc00129i.jpg (http://img232.imageshack.us/i/dsc00129i.jpg/)
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/8043/dsc00138n.jpg (http://img834.imageshack.us/i/dsc00138n.jpg/)
now its getting tricky
now you order some longer bolts (M12) and washes for the knuckle (I took extra strong [12.9] bolts cause negative acceleration is very important : ) ...
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/4420/dsc00005rp.jpg (http://img638.imageshack.us/i/dsc00005rp.jpg/)
so you need the inner spacer and long hub bolts too :(
and if you work correctly you can put on your desmonds (evo/spoons) and have this beautiful view (next time I would clean my wheels- I know :P)
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/4731/dsc00104qw.jpg (http://img203.imageshack.us/i/dsc00104qw.jpg/)
to be continued
sorry for my bad english
sunny greetz
oli
so here is a description for the spooncalipers on the integra typeR dc2 98spec...
in the most biggest onlineshop in europe for spoonparts " spoonsportseurope.net " were some descriptions, which are simple wrong... they say/said:
"The Twin Block Calipers will only fit a 96' Spec Integra, for 98' Spec Fitment please see Monocoque Calipers"
"Plug and Play"
"only need 16" rotor"
a.s.o....
1. the twinbloc (ni55in logo is on top) [45020-DCR-G00]
http://img829.imageshack.us/img829/8578/09twin.jpg (http://img829.imageshack.us/i/09twin.jpg/)
fits on a 98er spec without any mods on it; oem DC2 brakepads and brakerotors (282mm)
2. the monobloc (ni55in logo is low)
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5208/09mono.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/i/09mono.jpg/)
[45020-MBF-G01] MBF is for MonoBloc Forward, cause the caliper sits on front... the S2000 [AP1] caliper have the ordernumber [45020-MBR-G00], so here its MonoBloc Rear, cause the caliper sits on rear...here it seems, that spoon only change the bleeder with the connectiontube (to bleed the brakepistons // must be on top of course)...the caliper is symmetrical so there´s no complexity for the fabrication...the order of the pistons are the same: little piston then big piston
so if you be the lucky dog, who have this package
http://img819.imageshack.us/img819/594/dsc01094q.jpg (http://img819.imageshack.us/i/dsc01094q.jpg/)
don´t smile to early :-/ cause some problems exists ... Plug and Play is otherwise :roll:
1. the DC2 pads don´t fit in the caliper:
http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/3483/cimg96696s02.jpg (http://img225.imageshack.us/i/cimg96696s02.jpg/)
so you need the AP1 pads:
http://img20.imageshack.us/img20/4996/dsc00125q.jpg (http://img20.imageshack.us/i/dsc00125q.jpg/)
here you have to remove the little bracket for the "waste-notice" and the little nipple
http://img255.imageshack.us/img255/3820/dsc00126ef.jpg (http://img255.imageshack.us/i/dsc00126ef.jpg/)
thats it? now install and drive? wait please - dude :P ...you "could", BUT here you see, that the brakerotor is to small :( so the pads are braking the air yeah...following picture is DC2 rotor and AP1 pads
http://img84.imageshack.us/img84/5987/dsc00131p.jpg (http://img84.imageshack.us/i/dsc00131p.jpg/)
please check your wallet and order some AP1 brakerotors (300mm) ;) now it seems to be better
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/6483/dsc00139ye.jpg (http://img3.imageshack.us/i/dsc00139ye.jpg/)
now install and ride? no no, wait... please some patience :P
the brakerotors between DC2 and AP1 are different... the deepness on DC2 rotor is 45mm and AP1 is 40mm...
http://img232.imageshack.us/img232/1694/dsc00129i.jpg (http://img232.imageshack.us/i/dsc00129i.jpg/)
http://img834.imageshack.us/img834/8043/dsc00138n.jpg (http://img834.imageshack.us/i/dsc00138n.jpg/)
now its getting tricky
now you order some longer bolts (M12) and washes for the knuckle (I took extra strong [12.9] bolts cause negative acceleration is very important : ) ...
http://img638.imageshack.us/img638/4420/dsc00005rp.jpg (http://img638.imageshack.us/i/dsc00005rp.jpg/)
so you need the inner spacer and long hub bolts too :(
and if you work correctly you can put on your desmonds (evo/spoons) and have this beautiful view (next time I would clean my wheels- I know :P)
http://img203.imageshack.us/img203/4731/dsc00104qw.jpg (http://img203.imageshack.us/i/dsc00104qw.jpg/)
to be continued
sorry for my bad english
sunny greetz
oli